I got duped dunked on - August 3, 1985 ! DFD August 1998 !
sweet tee
(of the 'so glad I'm free' class)
I got duped dunked on - August 3, 1985 ! DFD August 1998 !
sweet tee
(of the 'so glad I'm free' class)
defd has said he will leave and it caused me reflect on how he was treated.
are we happy with the way we responded when he tried to defend his faith?
this and comments about my own attitude have caused me to review my motive for the posts i make.. when i first started posting here i was thoughtful and sincere as were most of the posters back then.
When I first started posting I just needed to vent and share my story. Knowing that you're not alone in your thoughts and struggles is very comforting. Now I try to post when I have something to say that hasn't been said in a thread already, or to offer support and encouragement (in very few words). But when I'm really in the mood to participate in a thread, I usually relate whatever it is to myself and try to convey my feelings through a personal experience. Then ... I sit back and wonder if I'm revealing too much about myself . Still, I like the feedback on this forum. It's the only one I post to even though I know there are others (I spend enough time here (ok, really, I spend too much time here) already).
I've found myself being harsh at times when I disagree but I've learned from that. I am always trying to improve my communication and social skills. I'm learning to disagree without being disagreeable, and not to get my undies in bunch over other peoples opionions.
sweet tee
just found out...details sketchy...happened last night..will tell you more as i find out...shes home alone
Awwwwwwwwwww!!!! Get well real soon Crumpet (((((((((((((((((((((((((((( HUGS ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
sweet tee
i had a conversation the other day with a relative - we started talking about death and so on, so forth.
i havent been attending for almost 3 years now and really havent been harrassed too much - just ignored.. i stopped attending meetings for a number of reasons, a few were belief differences which i knew would become trouble, but the main reason why i couldnt attend anymore is i felt fake.
but i felt that people only wanted to associate with me because we shared one thing and one thing only....a belief.
I feel your pain Garnet. It is truly sad that a group of people have been so desensitized to the feelings of others that they would pronounce someone eternally dead to their very face! JW's are taught NOT to feel for those who do not believe as they do. Even at the doors, they only feign sympathy in order to coerce the householder into the KH. If they fail to do that then they could give a rat’s fat arse what happens to them tomorrow. In fact, they look forward to the day when they are vindicated and we are all destroyed (ain't gonna happen).
I remember when I first started studying, a girl I grew up with asked me "well what if the end comes and you find out the Witnesses are wrong, how will you feel then?" I couldn’t answer her. I couldn’t even think about that and pushed the thought out of my mind. All I could think about was the 'one true faith', the 'pure religion' where everybody loves one another. All the - JW's don't lie, cheat, steal or kill. And no JW husband would ever beat his wife (yeah, right!), or molest children the way Catholic priests have, etc. etc. etc. Well, JW's have been lied to and denied information for so long that the only way they will see the truth is if they want to. But the GB is helping that along by continually beating the R&F down with endless rules and admonitions - vacillating back and forth over how to treat disfellowshipped relatives, college education and whatever else is in the botchtower these days. No wonder they are getting tired.
I got tired of it too. So I left.
I'm glad you're here Garnet. I know that her comment hurt you but I say consider the source. She really has no idea what she is doing. She's only imitating her loving mother.
sweet tee
i noticed via a friend with no reserve that i have come across harshly to some women.
not as harsh as it would be noticeable to someone on an internet board who does not know me could notice, but....to those who know me outside of the board, i have spoken as sharply as i can get at times.
i want to take this post to apologize.
No, you haven't been 'sh*tty to me either sparkplug. I take things here with a little more salt than used to. I just don't have the energy to get all emotional over a thread the way I did at first (with the exception of the 'you know what' thread).
We are all a work in progress. I've been dealing with a lady I serve with on a business module. She's one strongheaded sista, working in the background gathering support behind my back, not calling me to discuss MY IDEA, politicing and making promises without consulting the rest of the team ... etc.
Thing is, I agreed to do this forum to help someone she's concerned about. But now, it's turned into the "CHERYL SHOW". I knew what type of personality I was dealing with, I see some of my 'former' self in her. I also see a dominant personality type which I already know is a challenge for me. That's the main reason I stuck it out for almost a year, when I really wanted to bolt after the first couple of meetings - I know I can learn something from this woman, If nothing more than how to be more influential, tactful and a better negotiator myself.
Yea sparkplug - women have issues but we know that only WE can understand one another the way we do .
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sweet tee
interesting, in searching out info on sjw, this guy had this great website about his former jw girlfriend and her strange beliefs!
pretty funny!
just sharing, http://www.redbeet.com/.
That's the best part. Thanks for posting crumpet!
sweet tee
i have to be there in 38 minutes.
i'll get back to y'all when i'm able after my prostate operation.
wish me luck!.
Here's wishing you all the best undecided. (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( WARM HUGS )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Praying for your speedy recovery .
sweet tee
interesting, in searching out info on sjw, this guy had this great website about his former jw girlfriend and her strange beliefs!
pretty funny!
just sharing, http://www.redbeet.com/.
The way he describes the witless belief is right on point. Especially when he said "There are six billion people on this planet, and Jehovah's Witnesses look forward to seeing them all die, and they truly hope the end of the world will happen in our lifetime." He got a bird's eye view of witless life and it didn't take him long to figure out that their "extremist, fundamentalist views" really close them off from the rest of society. Funny, how after being around witlesses he actaully agreed with the GB in that "these people should only date other Jehovah's Witnesses. No one else can have such a narrow, close-minded view of humanity as them".
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man long ago left the natural order of things that keep the earth as a living habitat in balance and healthy.. he now manipulates the earth to make it bend to his wishes so that he can create paper (worthless profit), accumulate multiples of what he needs to survive and make himself as comfortable as he possibly can.. as the billions in the developing countries become more consumptive the world will eventually be used up.. that will be the true armageddon that mankind will face.
When one leaves JW's sometimes it's hard to leave the 'sky is falling' mentality behind. Bottom line - don't worry about things you cannot change but if you DO want to get involved in creating change then find an organization to support. As Satanus said, there are many people who are working for change and conservation.
sweet tee
i never could clearly explain the "faithful slave's domestics", as the watchtower tries to.
i would quote the publications but i did not believe that the explanation was at all satisfactory......was there anything you just couldn't "get"?
The revision of the "generation" doctrine still has me stumped.When I ask other JWs to explain, they quote the WT articles verbatim. Proof positive they have no clue either.
There's a lot of bulls**t on this thread, but this here is the MOTHER LOAD!!!!!
I actually thought I understood the chronology - either that or I just memorized it so I would not look like a fool in front of a study. A lot of that other stuff like the trupet blasts, types/anti-types stuff just made me feel uncomfortable (can you say cognitive dissonance???) but the failed prediction about the prophecy of Dainiel tore me apart. I actually believed that BS .
sweet tee